Thanks, pretty gutted like you say, it;s the second one I've had nicked too, the last one was a £3000 full suss MTB, both well secured (I thought!)

That's a tough time dude; check the usual portals on Gumtree & fleabay in case anyone's looking for a quick buck; difficult one to diguise being a complete build though beware of it sold split by component

good luck

Brickman said:

shit I saw it yesterday or this morning ourside dales a Ned pulled up outside door then pulled away looking around, tall lanky Ned in white/ grey Tracksuit riding it in a very tall gear / shake man nor . Was test riding a customers bike at the time and sew loads of bikes but he caught my eye as looker a bit out of place on what looked like a nice bike (pace carbon forks)

Are you actually serious?? It's Exotic carbon forks, Not pace but yeah, you defo think it's this bike? I don't suppose your shop has any CCTV outside?

My guess would be that he'd have been thinking about going in and asking if they bought used bikes in Dales ie, quick and easy cash in. Probably worth your while alerting other shops in the city as he might continue trying. Not saying they will risk a confrontation to take it off the guy but you never know.

Have you rung all the shops yet? Be worth ringing those up to 15miles out too as them knowing it belongs to someone after they've seen it/ dismissed it from their shop rather than before makes the difference between people reporting sightings and actual results.

I've emailed details to every bike shop in Glasgow and Edinburgh.

I'll be down the Barras tomorrow AM and Blochairn Sunday too to see if there's any sign of it.

Thanks again, i take it there was no camera outside the shop?

Cheers!

Sounds like he knows full well they are nicked bikes.

goldie1212 said:

Been lurking on this site for a while but decided to sign up when I seen this.
I too recently had a bike stolen from the Rutherglen area and after weeks of nothing I happened to stumble across it eBay. Turns out the seller owns the cyclesmith shop in Rutherglen (which is a coincidence as that's where I bought the bike from in the first place) he said that he bought the bike from someone who he regularly buys bikes from but was unwilling to tell me who. My advice would be to check there and keep an eye on it for the next few weeks!

Directed by M Night Shyamalan.

I really hope that's not as dodgy as it so plainly sounds.

You should have gone to the Police anyway man, people like this are the reason people steal bikes, if nobody would buy them then there would be no point stealing them.

I reckon I may have shot myself in the foot though sending him all the details, it will be well stashed if it had or does come in now.

Thanks for letting me know anyway... Wasn't a red Carrera was it? He mentioned something when I phoned.

Do you have the Ebay ID for him?

Of course, I appreciate it,thanks.

there's a police station and a fire station near there, worth a shot to see if their cctv caught him?

goldie1212 said:

Been lurking on this site for a while but decided to sign up when I seen this.
I too recently had a bike stolen from the Rutherglen area and after weeks of nothing I happened to stumble across it eBay. Turns out the seller owns the cyclesmith shop in Rutherglen (which is a coincidence as that's where I bought the bike from in the first place) he said that he bought the bike from someone who he regularly buys bikes from but was unwilling to tell me who. My advice would be to check there and keep an eye on it for the next few weeks!

I've just taken one of my bikes out of there today. If the shop is punting dodgy bikes then I'd much rather take my money somewhere else.

I've recommended it to others too, which I'll be retracting. I was more frustrated at the fact that they had it for 3 months, and it was only in to get three spokes replaced on the rear wheel. And the spokes still hadn't been replaced when I took it back!

ive just read this,i own cyclesmith,and i can assure you i dont buy stolen bikes,clemp3 i cant understand as i have done him loads of favours,the guy goldie 1212,sent his girlfriend down to my shop ,to say i had advertised her boyfriends stolen bike frame on ebay,i said i was glad he had found it,and would gladly give it back,but i paid £70 for,and kept it for a month,to see if anyone claimed it,i said i would rebuild it for free,and to collect it on the friday,on the friday a guy came in and said he was the owners brother,i sais why doesnt your brother come down hiself,then he handed me £20 for some reason,i couldnt understand this,then i sussed i had built a wheel for his brother,he said he would go to the bank,and for some reason never came back,i cant understand why this guy would bad mouth me,i did him lots of favours,when he used to come to the shop,i can assure anyone,i would nevernoingly buy a stolen bike,when i read these things about my shop,i was sick,why do people you help,try to bad mouth you,as for you clem please come into the shop,so i can put you straight,you know the favours ive did for you,im not a person who is money motivated,so would never ever buy a stolen bike,im just a guy who did road racing for years,and opened a repair business,then stared selling the odd second hand bike,but if im being accused of buying stolen bikes i will nwver buy one again,im an honest guy,who has always gave back,any stolen bike which i have unknowingly bought,i once had all my bikes stolen from my shed,and i know how it feels,i want the guy ho got his gazzelle back to come to my shop.if he has the guts,as i want to speak to him,im raging at him,and the guy who got his one on one stolen,to come to speak to me in the shop,im trying to run an honest business,and do cheap repairs,and genuingly help people,anyone who knows me,and anyone who works in my shop will know,i do not and i mwan this,buy stolen bikes,sometimes its hard to tell if a bike is stolen,i always take id,also this guy who said i took a court summons as id,is twisting things,i told him a guy offered me a court summons as id,and i sent him on his way,i nearly got a doing,when a yob tried to sell me a bike,which i had repaired the week before,and i tried to take it off him to give to the owner,and he threaten to crash my windows,its not easy as i said buying second hand bikes,and goldie1212,please come into my shop because i cannot beleive what you have said about me,after all the advise you got from us,and anyone who has there bike stolen,please please come to my shop,im trying to earn an honest buck,as for the guy who made the statement about alistair gow,saying im a dodgy guy,alistair used to build my road wheels when i raced,also the guys in the road scene will know me as smudger,and will know im honest,ive not seen alister for years ,but i will be visting him this week,to see if this is true,and will be having words with him,i was wondering why im quiet at the moment,now i know why,why do people always want to bring you down when your a decent guy,people come to my wee shop for a coffee,and a chat,and anyone of you are welcome,and please be assured i do not buy or sell stolen bikes,and to finish off with,i have a few police friends and a procurator friend,who when i opened my shop,gave my advise about stolen bikes,and any bikes i think are stolen,i give the police the frame number to check,the gazzelle was a bike i bought from a guy who comes into the shop,and his mum also comes in so i had no reason to think the bike was stolen,as he said it was too big for him,also goldie1212 said i had bought bikes from this guy before,i never said that,i sais the guy is a customer in our shop,i hope this puts everyone straight,as im totally gutted,especially with clem,as he had become a regular,who i helped a lot,as i do with other students ect.,please beleive me,and i do good quality repairs at reasonable prices,im a small repair shop,who enjoys helping people and love working on bikes,so dont believe all you here,from other people,and goldie1212,come into my shop.i want to speak to you.

yo man. all i have done is favours back at you. handed out all your flyers. recommended you on this forum and all i hear is shite about you from very respected people in the cycling trade and i start to wonder why no one i know knows about you and all then this happens and so i apologize for recommending you because it seems your business can't be trusted. i don't need to come in and speak to you, i appreciate the help on the bb and all but people question you and your business so your priority shouldnt be to have a bloody rant with a couple of guys your angry with, you should be looking at how you can fix this and prove to people you are legit... its not professional ranting on a forum is it? i respect you and am sure you are a good guy but until somebody recommends you to me i won't be back in...

Jambo's suggestions seem like a good idea. Would certainly help if any problems arise in the future.

I've only dealt with Cyclesmith a couple of times and the guy did seem pretty decent and genuine, just trying to make out a living like most of us. No excuse for anybody who knowingly sells dodgy stuff but can only base my comments on a positive personal experience.

hi everyone on this forum,i know i have been a bit nieve in buying bikes,i take id ect.but people could be giving me lies,as the guy says selling second hand bikes is too much hassle,im going to stick to repairs,as i would hate anyone to think,im a delboy,most people i know,dont go onto this forum,me included,but im glad i was told about this,i opened my shop as a way of earning some money,but also as something i love doing,iv never had any complaints,and this is only the second time,iv came across a stolen bike,and iv gave them back to there owners,i dont know why other cycle traders are bad mouthing me,is it because i do better and cheaper repairs,willy bain,a respected guy,sends people to me for second hand bikes,and thats a guy i respect highly,as for clem,saying ranting at people doesnt help.its the only way i can let people know,im not a young guy starting out,it wasnt easy,but i thought i had built up a good reputable wee business.and then people who i thought i was helping,and treated them as friends,listen to other people,its hard to take in,i like to talk to people face to face,and clem i dont see why you cant come in,you came to the shop when you wanted something,i didnt charge you,or charged you buttons,i honestly treated you as i would a friend,a decent guy would come in and at least let me know who is bad mouthing me,i dont read a lot of forums,so didnt know all this about stolen bikes,but the bikes in my shop,will be getting sold,and ill only be doing only repairs,as in the summer im that busy,i cant concentrate on selling bikes,so i hope geniune people who know me see this,and it doesnt affect my business,as i dont deserve this and thanks to the guys who do put possitive feedback for me,and i will be visiting big al this week,as for my website being the worst someone has seen,im not into websites,and dont think i need to advertise,as i get loads of repairs,ive fixed bikes since i was a teen,im now 59,so i think i have a vast amount of experience,to help people,and thats what i love doing.

ive had loads of phone calls regarding this persecution from respectable cycle traders.offering there sympathies.and as for you clem.stating you.ve heard a lot of shit.from respecable people in the cycle trade.why would they phone me.ive decided.i will only sell second hand bikes for people.and pay them.when there sold.with full printed id.and concetrate on my repairs.looking on the positive side.this forum.has done me a favour.as it has opened my eyes.to how many bikes are stolen.in the glasgow area.and its horrible.also clem.you put out flyers.because i gave you free parts for your bike.you seem to see things one sided.and thanks for all the support ive had.ei phone calls ect.i think this has done my business more good than bad.as my regulars.and guys i know in the cycle trade.couldnt believe this rubbish.i hope this is the end of this debate.and clem.see the good in people and not the bad.its not a nice way to be.please let me get on with my business now.and pop in and see for yourselves.

The reason why other people came in to collect the bike, John is that I have a job and could not make it in on time. Nobody asked you to rebuild the bike I would have been happy with the parts but apparently you insisted, which was fine. As you said you would be willing to take the loss I was prepared to split it with you. A week later the bike still wasn't ready so when my brother came in he only gave you £20. He was then told to come back a few days later. Now at this point I was getting nervous as I now found out where my stolen bike was but still did not have it back. When my brother went back to collect it he found that it was still not ready. I'm not condoning him acting like a "yob" but at the same time I'm don't think you where exactly polite to him.
As for the whole wheel situation you built a wheel from parts I supplied(slowly I might add) and then went on to charge me much more than you quoted in the first place. Being a student at the time and having little money I thought f***k that. Not saying it was the correct thing to do but there you go.
You do yourself no favours and like it or not do have a bad rep.
If you still want me to come down to speak to you that's fine but I see little to be gained from it

Exactly

literallyoverthemoon said:

rant at forum members, singling out some of them, and challenging some of them to speak to you in person; not what I want to associate your business with.

I have to say, I'd probably have thought nothing more of this and assumed the guy made a mistake, if he hadn't came on here. Asking folk to 'come and speak to him' sounds a bit pub carpark to me.

Gerry McG said:

buildafire said:

Asking folk to 'come and speak to him' sounds a bit pub carpark to me.

+1... pretty threatening... :(

Exactly what I thought and my girlfriend said, having read it over my shoulder.

No one's claiming you deliberately deal in stolen bikes, but you have been taken advantage of once before with a stolen bike, so people are going to be wary that it might happen again.

It happens to lots of bike shops, which is why they put safe guards in place to limit the chances. You didn't do this until it was discussed here and you lost your temper (instead of calmly setting the record straight). Like I said, this has put me off more than the initial allegation.

This is a cycling forum, we're going to discuss with other cyclists what we see as important issues regarding cycling. I'm sorry to say the only person ranting here was you.

I hoped you hadn't intended to be as threatening as your comments sounded, but they did seem that way (glad I wasn't the only one who thought this, thought I was paranoid).

I really hope you don't get any stolen bikes palmed off to you in the future, and that it doesn't affect the rest of your business.

On a light hearted note - I love the proper use of punctuation.
Longest sentence on the forum award goes to......Cyclesmith01

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